Episode 6
Kalvin Porter: Bridging Two Worlds Through Experience
On this episode of The Self Experiment, I sit down with Kalvin Porter, we reflect on our lives, community ties, and the significance of maintaining cultural connections while living abroad. From discussions about our upbringing and the impact of sports on our lives, to the challenges faced in adapting to life in Australia, we delve into the emotional weight of nostalgia and the complexities of identity.
Takeaways:
- The podcast episode emphasizes the importance of maintaining connections to one's cultural roots while living abroad, as exemplified by discussions about our experiences and family ties.
- Listeners are encouraged to appreciate their origins and the influence of cultural heritage on their identities, as we reflect on our upbringing and the impact of our communities.
- The conversations highlight the significance of personal growth and adaptation, particularly in the context of adjusting to life in a new country while preserving traditions from home.
- Insights into the dynamics of friendships and community engagements showcase how these relationships shape personal journeys and contribute to a sense of belonging and identity.
- The episode underscores the challenges of balancing professional aspirations with family responsibilities, particularly for individuals who are navigating career changes and personal development.
- We reflect on the nostalgia associated with our past experiences, illustrating how shared memories and cultural references contribute to our ongoing connection to home.
Transcript
Chop it, chop it.
Speaker B:Welcome back to another one.
Speaker B:I'm with the bro Calvin.
Speaker B:How are you, my brother?
Speaker A:Yeah, good, bro.
Speaker A:How are you, man?
Speaker A:We're good.
Speaker B:I am, bro.
Speaker B:I'm awesome, bro.
Speaker B:It's been a long time.
Speaker B:We're just talking.
Speaker B:I reckon the only chance I've had to catch up with you in the last 15 years has been Anzac Day games and I don't really want to talk to anyone after those.
Speaker A:Oh, that's pretty close, man.
Speaker B:I remember one year I took.
Speaker B:We had like, we were running seven deep and I brought everyone tickets and that's.
Speaker B:That's the year we got pumped by like 50, where I was.
Speaker B:I was pretty close to getting kicked out.
Speaker B:I was not.
Speaker B:I was not happy, bro.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I wasn't sure if I've seen you at any of the gangs, bro, but.
Speaker B:Nah, nah, I reckon every time we've been on opposite sides because I've spoken to you, you're like, yeah, I'm on this.
Speaker A:Nah, man, I told the special day that day, bro.
Speaker A:This, the day that I landed in Australia.
Speaker A:So, yeah, straight to the gang.
Speaker A:So insects, a pretty big gang say, and, and yeah, obviously, like, man, you always got a soft stop.
Speaker A:Warriors break and then, yeah, just go from there.
Speaker A:Right, so, and, and what year did you come over?
Speaker A:2009, bro.
Speaker A:It was the Black Friday where it was when those.
Speaker A:The fires was here and we just came over here to Nosia and then we're just going to have a look around.
Speaker A:Went up to Brizzy, my sister lives in Brizzy.
Speaker A:And yeah, we sort of.
Speaker A:This reminded me of Wellington, bro.
Speaker A:So I quite like it here, man.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And as you know, bro, after you have a few kids, you can't really go anywhere.
Speaker A:You sort of locked in, you're sort of locked into that sort of place.
Speaker A:They say.
Speaker A:Yeah, but now that's.
Speaker A:That's a special day for me, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who does a Storm play nowadays?
Speaker A:Sorry?
Speaker B:Who does the Storm play on Anzac Day now?
Speaker A:Oh, they just playing.
Speaker A:Oh, you can't remember Brandon.
Speaker A:You caught me on that one.
Speaker A:It would be the.
Speaker A:Not the Bunnies.
Speaker A:Yeah, it wasn't you guys, man.
Speaker A:It was like we were hoping it was be the warriors, man.
Speaker A:We go back home the last few years.
Speaker B:Last few years the warriors have been.
Speaker B:Been at home for playing the Titans, I think, just so they can get a few wins.
Speaker B:But they still, still can't beat them on Anzac Day.
Speaker A:Oh, bro, it's just when it's on there, they come out and play and then everyone Comes out, it just gets too packed.
Speaker A:I've just.
Speaker A:I've got to stay home.
Speaker A:It's too crazy.
Speaker B:What do you think about what's going on with Paps?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Left labor.
Speaker A:I wasn't too sure if he was going to play360 or go from there.
Speaker A:Eh.
Speaker A:But I'm just chilling out for you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Has he signed with 360 yet?
Speaker A:No, apparently.
Speaker A:I was just reading up Rose and it said that they were gonna.
Speaker A:They're pulling the pin on that.
Speaker A:They went.
Speaker A:I wasn't too sure it was 100 with the 360.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's a bit up in the air, but I feel it's going to take a few years off.
Speaker A:And I remember we used to go play tag Abra up in Parkful and all those.
Speaker A:All the.
Speaker A:All the.
Speaker A:All the storm, you know, the new guys coming through up there.
Speaker A:They only need like three players, bro.
Speaker A:And they're just.
Speaker A:Making us.
Speaker A:I was getting gutted, bro.
Speaker A:We had like 10 people.
Speaker A:They had like three Fijians, I think, all from out.
Speaker A:You know, the Fijians they get from Sunbury and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that was kill us, bro.
Speaker A:But I'm not too sure what Caps is going to do, man.
Speaker A:He should just keep doing his party, I reckon, and just keep doing this like that sort of stuff and arts up to what the brain wants to do.
Speaker A:He's talented.
Speaker B:He's got a good personality, though, for it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But no, what about.
Speaker B:What about.
Speaker B:What about Ali Katoa?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Well, you won't be playing this year either.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Maybe up for the season.
Speaker A:Brussels.
Speaker A:And then they got someone already at Hetherington, I think, bro.
Speaker A:They got him.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:Dawn will have a bit of money up in this leagues to reshuffle everything.
Speaker A:Braver.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:How's the Broncos, man?
Speaker A:Oh, I just bloody smoked us.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's been a while now and I can safely say that Reese Walsh should have been sent off, but we'll send.
Speaker B:Been the least.
Speaker B:I got a few Broncos, you know, supportive friends and yeah, I've waited a bit, but now I can say he should have been simbin at least, man.
Speaker A:I think we go back to Marisol Whiter, bro.
Speaker A:You know how it is that, guys.
Speaker B:Those are crazy times.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was the.
Speaker A:I think going back to there as original, man.
Speaker A:And I felt blocked, bro.
Speaker A:This is mad.
Speaker A:And your farm is massive, bro.
Speaker A:With Lucas and then.
Speaker A:And then they used to.
Speaker A:We've played touch with Them quite a bit back home and.
Speaker A:And they were awesome, bro.
Speaker A:So, yeah, always had some good rivalries with bow block, man, even through softball, bro.
Speaker A:And they were great when we played Taranaki and stuff.
Speaker A:You know, you had them and Howard.
Speaker A:They pretty strong, bro.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, you know, it goes back to that too, man, so good little banter there.
Speaker A:And, you know, playing sports brick, as you're growing up and you always been, you know, highly in your sports bra.
Speaker A:Seeing the photos of you at the Marist Club rooms.
Speaker B:Oh, those are many years ago now, but.
Speaker A:Unit, bro, Unit.
Speaker B:The Maris versus Waitada games.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:My family used to come out for that.
Speaker B:Like, they wouldn't be too fast about the other games, but Whiteada versus Marist, because you know something, Mum was having fights with the other parents on the.
Speaker A:Sidelines and.
Speaker A:It was funny, bro.
Speaker A:And then we'll just.
Speaker A:After a while, man, like, after all the years, and we just.
Speaker A:We've come pretty close to the boys, man, like Farley and bro, like, I still can't stay in touch with them.
Speaker A:And they all started DJing or something, you know, Lucas, your cousin.
Speaker A:And then they're like, oh, you're DJing?
Speaker A:Bloody.
Speaker A:Oh, they're DJing too.
Speaker A:And you sort of, you know, I've been DJing and probably those fellas are DJing and just getting the music.
Speaker A:And as you know, man, you just grow up and you're still good mates, bro, so it's really good, man.
Speaker B:They're all good blokes too, so.
Speaker A:Units, man.
Speaker A:I remember running into that wall, bro.
Speaker A:I was playing Farley in them, man.
Speaker A:It was just like a brick wall, bro.
Speaker A:There's no holes in that defense.
Speaker A:Too.
Speaker A:So thank God they always got us all the time.
Speaker A:So it was good fun.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, man, well, speaking of, like, DJing and stuff, you.
Speaker B:This is how we met?
Speaker B:Pretty much, yeah.
Speaker B:We're just saying it's.
Speaker B:It's almost about 25.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, 25, 26 years ago now.
Speaker B:We're in a little.
Speaker B:A little group that was world famous in Tadanaki for about 12 months, I reckon.
Speaker B:Urban harmony.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Bro, do you remember how you got involved?
Speaker A:I think it would have been through your dad, bro, but might have been through Rach, man.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I can't remember, bro, but your dad always.
Speaker B:You came along before Rach did.
Speaker A:Oh, did I?
Speaker A:Oh, I didn't realize.
Speaker B:I think so.
Speaker B:I think you brought.
Speaker B:I think you brought Rachel along.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, man.
Speaker A:I think I lost a few memory cells, bro.
Speaker A:But yeah, yeah, I Can't remember.
Speaker A:I remember seeing me and you were.
Speaker A:And were just coming up, man.
Speaker A:You started riding.
Speaker A:Remember?
Speaker A:R. You started riding and then.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Took off from there, bro.
Speaker A:And a few of us and then sort of out of the old.
Speaker A:Out of.
Speaker A:Where was Dad's name?
Speaker A:Lipton?
Speaker A:E.
Speaker A:Was.
Speaker A:Recording.
Speaker B:It was that little house between that and Englewood.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was at Inglewood now.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:Inglewood.
Speaker B:Yeah, Inglewood.
Speaker A:Get it right, mate.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's been ages.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Ingle.
Speaker B:Woody in the hoodie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it originally started just, like, in a shed up at.
Speaker B:In frankly, park up the road from my.
Speaker B:Where my nana used to live.
Speaker B:I think it started off me hawani, Nico, and the brother, Lucky, I think.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:We're all sort of.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It was sad hearing about him.
Speaker B:I didn't get a chance to go back at all.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker A:I didn't even know, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's a few years ago now.
Speaker B:Brother Lux, he was.
Speaker B:Bro.
Speaker B:When I heard him rap, it was just so simple for him.
Speaker B:All his rhymes would just come, like, smooth, and you tell him a topic and it wouldn't even take him any time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he was just, like, the most chill, like, person that you'd ever meet in your life.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Lucky and yourself.
Speaker A:And then Hawani.
Speaker A:And he went on to do things.
Speaker A:Yeah, he did.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That was his plan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I remember talking to him for hours, and he was saying, yeah, I want to tour with Shea Fu and, you know, do all that stuff.
Speaker B:And that's what he ended up doing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It was pretty driven back, you know, the brother.
Speaker A:And then they took off from there and then started DJing and then obviously singing karaoke and stuff like that.
Speaker A:But no, that was good times, bro.
Speaker A:It's good times, man.
Speaker A:We lived our dream for.
Speaker A:And back home, for a little bit.
Speaker B:There.
Speaker B:We did some good gigs.
Speaker A:Songs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, bro.
Speaker B:Our songs were banging back then for what it was and for what the equipment we had.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Used to go some of the songs back.
Speaker B:Nah.
Speaker B:So that's what I was thinking about before.
Speaker B:I was talking to Josh Perdena yesterday.
Speaker B:He's from Tarnaki as well.
Speaker B:He's living in Bali at the moment doing, like, basketball coaching, training and stuff like that.
Speaker B:And we were saying how, like, podcasts and music's all sort of a time capsule that people in the, like, 60 years from now will listen to.
Speaker B:And back then we.
Speaker B:I don't think we had a chance or an opportunity to grab that time capsule of all our music, because I don't know where it's.
Speaker B:I don't know where it is anymore.
Speaker B:I know it was recorded at to Courtney Michael, which had all the masters and the originals.
Speaker B:But looking for it now, bro, it's almost impossible.
Speaker A:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe Uncle.
Speaker A:Uncle might have it.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:Uncle Benny.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll ask.
Speaker A:You already know anyway.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, he'll be the one to be in contact with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But there was a.
Speaker B:There was a summer there.
Speaker B:I think it was a summer where we toured.
Speaker B:And I remember.
Speaker B:You know, meeting Bennett Pullmanna from Dan Native and hanging out with the native sons, bro, those were good times.
Speaker A:Yeah, cool, bro.
Speaker B:Especially.
Speaker B:Bro, I was.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was just a baby.
Speaker B:Just baby having babies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Mason, he's.
Speaker B:He's got his own baby now.
Speaker A:I've seen that, bro.
Speaker A:Congratulations.
Speaker A:Together.
Speaker B:And it's gone so fast too, you know?
Speaker B:It's gone so fast.
Speaker B:Like it's.
Speaker B:You just don't realize.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden, yeah, you got mukuls and you're like, Jesus.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're younger than me, right?
Speaker A:Yes, but no, but, yeah, the tongue, bro.
Speaker B:But yeah, when you're looking back and like, damn native and native sons.
Speaker B:I remember being like.
Speaker B:I remember hearing like horrified one and.
Speaker B:Just thinking how cool it was that we had something to.
Speaker B:That we could relate to as a culture and as a people.
Speaker B:And then just getting to meet Bennett, you know, he was on my time, bro.
Speaker B:Remember my time?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, bro, that was cool.
Speaker A:That was cool.
Speaker A:Stacy Daniels.
Speaker B:That was cool.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Was it Q?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Q.
Speaker B:The pretty boy, the cool hair.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:That was going back.
Speaker B:But yeah, just meeting all those people and getting a chance to, I don't know, live our dream for.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For that short period of time.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker B:I think what.
Speaker B:What ended up happening was money getting in the way.
Speaker B:I remember we got offered a contract and some of us wanted it and some of us didn't.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:You got a good memory, brother.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can't even remember.
Speaker B:Oh, I remember bits and pieces.
Speaker B:I remember.
Speaker B:Was that normally the aftermath of something?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So they had a grant.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So to Cory Michael had a grant to start a record label and they wanted to sign us as their first.
Speaker B:Their first signing.
Speaker B:But they wanted.
Speaker B:They wanted full control over what kind of music we made.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I didn't yet.
Speaker B:And we had a.
Speaker B:We had a meeting in my shed over at Maryland's.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:Got a bit heated after a bit and I think me and Hawani wrote a Good diss song after that to everyone who wanted to take the contract.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:As.
Speaker A:That's your.
Speaker A:As you know, Hasbro, that was his one, eh?
Speaker A:And then you.
Speaker A:You're like the right hand man.
Speaker A:And then dad was in there and your fellow's ears.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, that was.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That day there, that was pretty much just me and Hawani and I think Nico just went against dad and.
Speaker B:And Lucky and Uncle Bernie.
Speaker B:I think that was the sort of.
Speaker B:That was the end of it.
Speaker B:I guess it's just sort of fell apart after that, unfortunately, because I reckon we, you know, there was enough talent there to.
Speaker B:To do something with that.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's sad.
Speaker A:We're in the politics.
Speaker A:Everyone'S on the force of the opinions, but, oh, well, everyone's on to the own little thing.
Speaker A:Hey, you've done.
Speaker A:You're doing your thing, bro.
Speaker B:And there's all fond memories and like, we all made mistakes during that period because we're all young.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We didn't know what was happening.
Speaker A:It was a good time, but we.
Speaker B:All ended up where we're supposed to be.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, I enjoyed that.
Speaker A:That was good fun kicking in between.
Speaker A:I was still DJing, I think so.
Speaker A:And then scratching up for you guys when Neville has had anything on.
Speaker A:And yeah, yeah, he had a few people come in and make music with him.
Speaker A:So that was good times, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, bro, it was.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker B:Remember that group from Waita that came in and they were rapped like Bone Thugs in harmony?
Speaker B:Do you remember them?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, Christian, bro.
Speaker A:That would have been Christian in them.
Speaker A:Christian.
Speaker B:They were really good.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can't remember their names, but I used to see them a lot.
Speaker A:Three couples.
Speaker A:And then we used to go up to Monica, so.
Speaker A:Oh, yes, Christian.
Speaker A:TK them.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, they're really, really good.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's some good talent, man.
Speaker A:Good talent.
Speaker B:Because they.
Speaker B:They sort of joined.
Speaker B:Well, they don't join us, but they sort of like they came with us and we were helping them out and I was like thinking, bro, we've only been doing this for like three months and now already feel old.
Speaker B:All the young ones are coming up already.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that was good.
Speaker B:And then you had like, do you know Ashley Hughes and.
Speaker B:And all them Lou kn.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And they all came up after us and they.
Speaker B:They all had.
Speaker B:They all got decent, like, really, really good albums that I love.
Speaker A:Oh, me.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker B:So that's good.
Speaker B:Tadnaki was still repping after.
Speaker B:Well, after we had our moment of moment of fame.
Speaker A:No, that's good, bro.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:There's a lot of talent that's come out of there, man, especially music.
Speaker A:Few DJs as well, bro, so.
Speaker B:And, yeah, well, and sports, like, you look at the Barrett brothers, Isaac, Luke.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Bruce.
Speaker A:There's a lot that's come out of there.
Speaker A:And if you look through the.
Speaker A:Even through the league and the rugby, man, and the netball and.
Speaker A:Yeah, touch and stuff, so.
Speaker A:And the boys are still doing that touch back home and I see everyone getting up there, so it's good, bro.
Speaker A:Makes you miss home a little bit, hey, living over here, but quite a bit the community on this, man.
Speaker B:So how long.
Speaker B:Yeah, so how long you been over here now for?
Speaker A: Oh,: Speaker A:Probably 15 years, bro.
Speaker A:Not long, no.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now, did it take you long to sort of acclimatize to Australia and get used to everything or.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Not as much as when I first moved out of Hamburg to Whalley and then I was there for like 10 years before I moved here.
Speaker A:So you sort of miss home a bit, that first movie?
Speaker A:Yeah, no, just takes a while to get used to everything, how they do stuff over here and you sort of got to put yourself out there a bit more, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, I found.
Speaker A:And then John will create some opportunities.
Speaker A:Hey, but no, it was good, bro.
Speaker A:Sort of miss it.
Speaker A:But I've always lived by myself or just gone on my own sort of journey with Joel, the old.
Speaker A:Kicking me out a bit earlier to get moving down ways.
Speaker A:So you get sort of used to it.
Speaker A:But I reckon if I was just straight from.
Speaker A:Wait here may have struggled a little bit, but.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And the kids.
Speaker B:Yeah, they do.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:Are they more Australian then.
Speaker B:But a base E, bro.
Speaker A:I think you see the little things, my boy, you know, journey.
Speaker A:Jenny's the oldest, so he's 24 now and he's.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's he's like back home, bro.
Speaker A:He was growing up back home, you know, back in the.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then the little ones are sort of brought up here and around here.
Speaker A:Older.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Other brothers and sisters here as well.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can see a little bit of.
Speaker A:Bit of Kiwi stuff in Limburger, but journey, definitely.
Speaker B:Do.
Speaker B:You try and keep the culture alive?
Speaker B:Well, do you try and keep the culture with them or.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is it harder?
Speaker A:Yeah, we live here.
Speaker A:It is, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Try and still keep things going, you know, and keep in touch with everything.
Speaker A:And because Mum's great, she like she'll just explain everything to them about tummies and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's been a lot over the last few years, bro.
Speaker A:But yeah, they explained to them.
Speaker A:No, he's wondering, so take them back home, show them around and get them back into it.
Speaker B:Yeah, bro, the.
Speaker B:The older you get, the more tongueies you go to.
Speaker A:Yeah, unfortunately, bro.
Speaker A:And it's as you know, man, you know, so always something's going on back home, bro, so.
Speaker A:And anywhere.
Speaker A:Anyway, so.
Speaker B:Always.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I was speaking to Nathan Wallace the other day.
Speaker B:He was.
Speaker B:He's a like a child brain development guy, neuroscience.
Speaker B:And he was saying how kids only need like 60 words.
Speaker B:To sort of get that connection with their culture.
Speaker B:I'm just wondering if you're still.
Speaker B:Obviously the kids know some words.
Speaker A:Yeah, very.
Speaker A:Yep, yep.
Speaker A:They're always keen and we always like teaching like just, just basic words, man.
Speaker A:And then keep them in touch with Bachrain and stuff.
Speaker A:And I just have my sister here actually, bro.
Speaker A:I don't know if, you know, she came over and she wanted to reconnect with the kids and that and she's got Moko and the kids are like looking and they're like, what's that?
Speaker A:And then we had to explain it for them and a few little words and stuff.
Speaker A:But yeah, no, bro, we'd be trying to stay in touch with everything back there, man, just to make sure that the kids sort of know, but they're keen to learn, so.
Speaker B:And how do you feel personally about being over here and.
Speaker B:Because I know sometimes when, like over the years since I've been here, like you start missing home a lot more than you thought, especially with, you know, everyone, like family and stuff back home.
Speaker B:And then you got nieces and nephews and you got, you know, people getting married and people having babies and people, you know, and tongues and you've.
Speaker B:I've felt over the past, you know, 15 years since I've been here is not losing touch with the culture or the people or anything like that, but struggling to keep up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, brother.
Speaker A:I try and ring the old man in there every, every two or three weeks, man, just do a catch up and you know, you know, the old spro.
Speaker A:They're retired and they're like a newspaper sort of like giving me the updates and everything.
Speaker A:So I'll try and do that, man, and just stay in contact.
Speaker A:What's going on back there, what's happening and who's doing that?
Speaker A:And then the old man just.
Speaker A:He's like a newspaper man.
Speaker A:So he's been real help.
Speaker A:Yeah, but yeah, you know, the thing I miss, bro, is just the community thing, man.
Speaker A:You know, you remember, you know, you know you could rock up down to your local and then you had like.
Speaker A:Like last night my sister had organized the white to the market spray, you know them and then.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, yeah, she's.
Speaker A:She's fully involved in the community.
Speaker A:So you see that, eh?
Speaker A:And you see everyone's like playing music and having like.
Speaker A:It's probably gala days.
Speaker A:Remember those, bro?
Speaker B:I love those.
Speaker A:That koi get all the food and all the snacks and toffee apples and have all the gains going and just basic stuff, bro, you know, the technology sort of.
Speaker A:There's no technology as much.
Speaker A:It's just back to the basics, bro.
Speaker A:So that's the thing I miss because I like taking my kids like to do stuff like that and it doesn't cost that much.
Speaker A:Yeah, you like it does over here.
Speaker A:You can go somewhere.
Speaker A:It's very expensive, bro, so.
Speaker B:Oh, bro.
Speaker B:And it's just getting more expensive.
Speaker A:Yeah, it is.
Speaker A:And that's why I miss that.
Speaker A:But yeah, you're only trying to get that.
Speaker A:That feeling, bro, that connection with community and we've kept up with friends and family and that's pretty priceless back home, Brian, they think.
Speaker A:They think nothing of it.
Speaker A:I'm thinking, man, user's so lucky.
Speaker A:That's Rick, you know.
Speaker A:But yeah, I did struggle.
Speaker A:I just struggled with that.
Speaker A:But I think that bit for the kids mainly, bro, not for myself.
Speaker A:Just so they can see that.
Speaker A:Because like that's the piece.
Speaker A:You miss being over here, right?
Speaker A:You always, yeah, in your sort of own lane, you just in this just either just at home doing your own thing and you're not really.
Speaker A:Can't really do much in the community.
Speaker A:But is back home, bro, there always.
Speaker A:There's always something going on, baby, which is good.
Speaker A:I like.
Speaker A:I like watching.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's always something and then so they've always got something going on.
Speaker A:And that's the thing that you miss.
Speaker A:That's the thing I miss is that.
Speaker B:Yeah, you just the community inferno sort of thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Everywhere across back home.
Speaker A:But yeah, as you know, a lot.
Speaker B:Of people I speak to about being over here feel.
Speaker B:Feel guilty about being here.
Speaker B:Have you ever felt that?
Speaker B:A little bit being away from family.
Speaker A:Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker A:Because you know, it's struggling, man.
Speaker A:It's not easy, eh?
Speaker A:And it's not easy here too, so, you know, a bit of both, so.
Speaker A:And then it depends on the situation very soon.
Speaker A:But yeah, A little bit.
Speaker A:But then just like whenever they need us, we're here, you know, and give them a hand up or.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And stuff like that.
Speaker A:Some of them.
Speaker B:I don't understand how some people live over there.
Speaker B:Wages and the prices of stuff, bro.
Speaker B:I went to buy last time I went, which was a while ago, like a block of cheese was like 25 or some.
Speaker B:And it's made in New Zealand.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:I broke.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then you're over here still struggling, but not as much as them.
Speaker B:That's where sort of the guilt comes in for me anyway.
Speaker B:It's not like guilt, like I'm stressed about it or anything like that, but I do feel.
Speaker B:Not that we're living greater, like fantastic.
Speaker B:Like we're rich or anything, but I do look back and like some of the family members or some of the friends are living week to week.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like we used to.
Speaker B:But you just get used to it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's like when I left, I was like, I just want to give it a shot over here, around, just see how it goes.
Speaker A:Just thought I knew there was something over here to come and try and had no one boy heels.
Speaker A:I mean eight when we moved over journey.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then, yeah, like down the road now, opportunities and come up.
Speaker A:But you do feel for them, bro.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, just try and help them out whenever I can, bro.
Speaker A:You know, but whenever they need some, you know, tummies or whatever and just chop in something even on both sides of the farm over wherever, because it's not easy.
Speaker A:So not easy both for anyone.
Speaker B:Have you become Australian citizen yet or.
Speaker A:Not yet, brother.
Speaker A:I'm in the process.
Speaker A:I've just got to do the kids ones.
Speaker A:I'm adding them on.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, you've probably already done it, eh?
Speaker A:You've done yours.
Speaker B:Nah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I start every year.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:There's 66 pages, I think I keep going and then I stop.
Speaker A:So obviously it's just my.
Speaker B:Was it so hard for.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was just.
Speaker A:One of my mates did it.
Speaker A:He just finally went through and my sister's done hers.
Speaker A:She's been at one with a me.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think if we had a rattle under us with do it Br.
Speaker A:Like, oh, you got to move back to New Zealand if you don't do it.
Speaker A:But yeah, obviously our kids will turn 10 and automatically go over.
Speaker A:But yeah, Jenny's got to do his, so.
Speaker B:And the scheme of things, we don't really need it, but it does make it easier sometimes.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I think business wise, bro.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think that's it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've seen some like.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I don't know, you know, Eweber Stevens in it, but yeah, those guys did it for their business.
Speaker A:So apparently you get some extra help through that or.
Speaker A:Yeah, just having it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The port us back, it opens a lot of doors.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You can't get the porter back to New Zealand then, bro.
Speaker A:You got the juices.
Speaker A:No, no saying that.
Speaker A:But I've got to do it, bro.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Okay to do it.
Speaker A:I've got to get the kids burst sets and then put them on this.
Speaker A:Not all of them have to do it, just my little one because it's a bit funny.
Speaker A:They gotta wait till 10.
Speaker A:My other ones are over 10, so they're already managing.
Speaker A:It's just her because she's only eight.
Speaker A:So if you want to speed it up.
Speaker B:Oh, so you have to wait till 10?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What's the rule of that?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So 10 years.
Speaker A:Once they turn 10, then they can.
Speaker A:Apparently they get citizenship, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, apparently, bro.
Speaker A:That's what I've heard about the.
Speaker A:And not up with the lingo, but.
Speaker A:Nabs.
Speaker B:How many rumors about it.
Speaker B:I don't know what to believe half the time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that changes by the time you go to do what you got told I was changing it.
Speaker B:We'll make it harder.
Speaker A:It was weird because I've done it.
Speaker A:I haven't done it.
Speaker A:I haven't done it straight away when they told me if you leave it too long and they change the rules again.
Speaker A:Yeah, N. Yeah, eventually get onto it, bro.
Speaker A:Eventually get onto it.
Speaker B:So, N. Well, that's supposed to have made it easier recently, but it still sounds hard and it looks hard every time I look at it.
Speaker A:It's a lot, man.
Speaker A:And then you've got to go back through your mum, dad, and then do all that sort of stuff and then.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I've had to just save it, go back.
Speaker A:Save it, go back, bro.
Speaker A:And then go back.
Speaker A:I think I got to the end and I was like, oh, I'll come back to that.
Speaker A:And I could have just probably won't click away.
Speaker A:Just submit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was just like, got a summit and then it gets the red, you get the.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So that depends on your circumstances, bro, how bad you need it.
Speaker A:But I'm good so far.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Nah, I don't.
Speaker B:I Don't really need it.
Speaker B:It just helps with like, obviously, like money and like you were saying, like business and stuff like that.
Speaker B:But end of the day they still take tax off me, so can't be that important to get it.
Speaker A:That's true, yeah.
Speaker B:Do you keep.
Speaker B:Obviously you're saying your parents are like the newspaper and stuff.
Speaker B:Do you keep up with what's happening over there?
Speaker B:Like the government trying to take Te Reo out of the schools and stuff like that, or.
Speaker A:Yeah, I did see stuff like that, bro.
Speaker A:I follow a lot of Mori politicians.
Speaker A:That makes sense.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And a lot of people in the parliament stuff and then just trying to stay up to date with what's happening back there.
Speaker A:And I've got a few friends, you know, that are quite involved in a lot of the political stuff back home.
Speaker A:And as.
Speaker A:As in a good way, they just keep you up to date and stuff.
Speaker A:What's happening?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that's what's going on.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I've seen that, bro.
Speaker A:I've seen that, bro.
Speaker A:Just the.
Speaker A:The time itself.
Speaker A:You still a neighbor.
Speaker B:And what's your thoughts on it?
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:I think we should just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Do what the best we can and try and keep still going.
Speaker A:They're quite staunch, bro.
Speaker A:I've seen them quite still.
Speaker A:Still standing up for their rights and stuff, which is good.
Speaker A:You know, there's a lot of.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's good.
Speaker A:It's good to see, man, they haven't already or for the kids, eh?
Speaker A:So keep everything still going.
Speaker A:Nothing against it.
Speaker B:I don't know why they're trying to take it out of the school.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Y. Yeah, just.
Speaker A:It's that control thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: d it's weird because we're in: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah, it just sounds like they're trying to.
Speaker B:I don't know, I've seen a lot of the.
Speaker B:The Prime Minister, the New Zealand Prime Minister on a lot of social media recently and he's just like this whole school lunch thing that sort of fell over and he's telling people to make Marmite sandwiches and then he's posting pictures of him and his wife going to like, expensive dinners and stuff.
Speaker B:And you just like.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:The celebrity of being Prime Minister and the powers just.
Speaker B:Just got to him, by the.
Speaker B:By the sounds of it.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:I'm happy to talk politics with anyone.
Speaker B:Well, New Zealand politics, because I don't live there, so I can say what I want.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, bro.
Speaker A:No, I've seen as, you know, man, as always a rat in the kitchen.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:They always, they always going to be like that, bro.
Speaker A:And then back home and man, not, not coming out.
Speaker A:But it's like, man, it's, it's pretty much, you know, they say they trying to control that country and take over it, so.
Speaker A:And I feel it's good our people stand out.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, and I think they always will.
Speaker B:Which.
Speaker B:A big thing was to why the government or people like Luxembourg won't get what they want, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah, but they're always going to get their own supporters who agree with them that New Zealand should be called New Zealand and the primary language should be English and it shouldn't be called Aotearoa and Mori shouldn't be taught to everybody.
Speaker B:They're going to have their supporters and they're going to get the votes as well.
Speaker B:So I think the key point is just everyone get out and vote and have your say.
Speaker B:Because I remember when Jacinda Dune was in and people complained about her and I told some of my friends, just be wary of the devil.
Speaker B:You don't know.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Yeah, and in hindsight she wasn't that bad.
Speaker B:She was actually pretty good.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Compared to what we got now.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker A:Yeah, she did a lot, man.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But yeah, I think.
Speaker A:Our, our people will stand up pretty strong against most of the things and there's a lot going on, bro, at the moment, so.
Speaker B:There is.
Speaker A:They all get involved.
Speaker A:It's good.
Speaker A:Everyone gets together.
Speaker A:Hey, sticks together.
Speaker B:And that's what you're talking about before is the community part of things in a more.
Speaker B:Political and motivated way to.
Speaker B:Get, not get what to.
Speaker B:Yeah, and, and to not get what they or we deserve, but to, you know, to stand up for.
Speaker B:Our rights and, and don't get pushed around by someone who's, you know, driving around in a.
Speaker B:At a female, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's the man's breast.
Speaker A:They just want to stick together and they know their fellow's rights and luckily they have the trinity over it, so.
Speaker B:Well, it's something they're trying to get rid of as well, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, they're trying to do that and they'll try and get everything out and they'll try and.
Speaker A:Yeah, I feel for our country, bro, I feel for our country.
Speaker A:They've let a lot in that they shouldn't have.
Speaker A:Not as people but just as their, the regulations and stuff.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:You see it over here, how they control a lot here.
Speaker A:They control.
Speaker A:Trying to control Australia as Australians back home.
Speaker A:They sort of Missed the ball on that a little bit.
Speaker A:So, yeah, hopefully they'll get back something they'll regain.
Speaker B:Well, I said the other day that once we start paying teachers more and politicians less, we'll start having smarter people and a lot less stupid rules.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, that's right, bro.
Speaker B:Just one thing I've been obviously catching up with you on social media and keep an eye out is you training people.
Speaker B:How did that come about?
Speaker A:Oh, sorry, sorry, bro.
Speaker A:What was that?
Speaker B:Sorry, sorry, the, the.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You training people.
Speaker A:Yeah, that came.
Speaker A:Oh, man, that just came.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, after I ruptured my Achilles, bro, I was playing touch and then ruptured Achilles and then started training the gym and, you know, just sort of started getting on that side of things and then worked in a few gyms across Melbourne and then.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Oh, you know, it was getting quite costly, paying the rent of these gyms to PT in there to do personal training.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, I'll just ending.
Speaker A:Covid came in and then.
Speaker A:Sort of they released.
Speaker A:Remember they asked to release some of your super.
Speaker A:So I grabbed someone, I set up my business and then started training people out of my gym.
Speaker A:So out of my house area, out of the house here.
Speaker A:And that was good, man.
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's quite.
Speaker A:Absorbing.
Speaker A:Sometimes you take on a lot.
Speaker A:So, as in like people's mental health and then from COVID and stuff and then started training people from there and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, got into powerlifting a little bit and that was great, man.
Speaker A:It was good fun.
Speaker A:And then just learned all the techniques from them.
Speaker A:You know when you try and master a craft, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, just had to go and learn off a few people and do a few.
Speaker A:Lot of courses and then, yeah, get trained by a lot of different coaches.
Speaker A:And then that sort of came about, that and then a few friends knew and then they sort of, you know, started training people out of home.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:It's been good, man.
Speaker A:It's been good.
Speaker A:Now the gym set up for the kids and with.
Speaker B:And with.
Speaker B:And with powerlifting.
Speaker B:Did you.
Speaker B:Did you compete or was it just to get stronger?
Speaker A:Yeah, just to get stronger, but basically just to learn the lifts, man.
Speaker A:Like, I needed to learn the technique and the form.
Speaker A:So then if I was to coach people, you know, you got to have some sort of mology, what's going on.
Speaker A:So to sort of give everyone the best service you can.
Speaker A:So that's the way I thought.
Speaker A:I thought I got to learn how to.
Speaker A:I got to learn from the best.
Speaker A:So I went and found out, find Some, some guys that can lift that are pretty strong and pretty well known in the, in the album and same as physios.
Speaker A:I went to a few physios and just to sort of drill into them and find, you know, learn of them and then, then I can teach it onto my clients, bro.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A: But no, I entered: Speaker A:That was good.
Speaker A:There was a, It's a novice comp, nothing too crazy to ride home with, but it was an experience, bro.
Speaker A:It was sort of like getting up on the stage, you know, do a kick, bro.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, obviously being DJing, but.
Speaker A:Nah, it was good, bro.
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker A:It was a good day, but good experience.
Speaker A:But probably I'm about out of my league now.
Speaker A:Need to get back into sort of everything but on the brakes and with the family and stuff, so for the last two years and haven't had a good run with everyone being sick and stuff, so just had to sort of just, just keep, keep up with what I could do and, and then overrun the business and try and work and look after the family at the same time.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was good, though.
Speaker A:But it's going good, man.
Speaker A:It's good, though.
Speaker A:I enjoy that.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now I've had to sort of back off a bit, bro, with it because of my family, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, so I just did one or two here and I need the rest as well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:With the family and I'm working night shift, so.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, I, I, I don't know anything about powerlifting, so I find it really interesting you just explained to me sort of the different lifts and stuff like that, because I, I don't really do weights, so.
Speaker A:No, that's fine, bro.
Speaker A:No, I respect it.
Speaker A:I mean, I loved any exercise, man.
Speaker A:It's just, I've been involved, I've done a lot of sports, high intensity and then weights and cardio and stuff.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's just the three main lifts.
Speaker A:So you got your deadlift, which is an opening.
Speaker A:You start off on the ground with the bar and you lift it up, there's a hip hinge movement and then you've got your squat, which is barbell squat, and then you've got a bench press.
Speaker A:So that's just for powerlifting.
Speaker A:But if we're into a powerlifting comp, you'd get judged on those three lifts, how much you can get on those lifts.
Speaker A:So you have three attempts each time, each lift, and then you know your best lift will be go towards your score and it's weight classes.
Speaker A:As well some of them bro.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:That'S why we're involved with them.
Speaker A:But the main thing was.
Speaker A:Understanding the list because a lot of people want to learn, want to do the list but they don't know how to do it right.
Speaker A:So properly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And there's progressions to get up to that.
Speaker A:You wouldn't start straight on that bro.
Speaker A:You'd have to progress.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:On.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone's saying like a push up when you just starting on something real basic.
Speaker A:That's what I've usually do for someone come through.
Speaker A:I just run them through a little mini like little couple exercises.
Speaker A:See what they.
Speaker A:What their movement patterns like and see how experience they all do lifting and then go from there.
Speaker A:You wouldn't.
Speaker A:Yeah, not trying to chuck it on them straight away.
Speaker A:Just start off light and easy and then get the movement patterns right and then go up to on there.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's basically powerlifting and then it's just whoever can lift the most gets a bit crazy and I'm like ah, the injuries come in man.
Speaker A:And then the.
Speaker A:And it takes a lot of time and.
Speaker A:But fitness wise it's good for strength and stuff like that for just your normal day to day living.
Speaker A:But I enjoy it.
Speaker A:But yeah, sometimes the head gets too much burn.
Speaker A:You try and go a bit too much and you know you get injured so you gotta cool, stay cold.
Speaker A:Cool of it.
Speaker B:I see on like YouTube and on reels and stuff some of the injuries that the competitors get.
Speaker B:Yep, it looks, it looks horrific.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Some of those torn picks and quads and yeah without getting up there and that's when you're getting pretty serious bro.
Speaker A:So yeah it can be still enjoyable if you know your means your limits.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But obviously bigger comps you're going to get into dangerous waters and then yeah just your novice and then I like it because you can.
Speaker A:It just goes back to the foundation everything.
Speaker A:But then just say if someone wants to do.
Speaker A:I've had a few marathon runners bro.
Speaker A:Actually I've had a few police.
Speaker A:Oh officer yourself bro.
Speaker A:With the, with the police and the fireies for their fitness.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, they come and see me and want to do that.
Speaker A:So I'll switch up my training.
Speaker A:It'll take it straight off powerlifting and move it straight to like a cardio.
Speaker A:But it's the sort of endurance sort of training where it's not so much as in trying to lift heavy weights.
Speaker A:It's just trying to get these guys enjoyed and prepared for their big tests and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah, they just comfort just to build a bit of muscle.
Speaker A:And marital winners are nuts, bro.
Speaker A:They just like 30 foot.
Speaker A:I was like, unbelievable.
Speaker A:Both females and males seem to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They just.
Speaker A:Their athletes even younger.
Speaker A:I get a lot of.
Speaker A:Because, like, you know how gyms don't have younger kids either, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, I get a couple of kids that come in and I'll train them up too and just get them started.
Speaker A:It's great, bro.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:I enjoy.
Speaker A:I enjoy doing the youth, man, because, you know, you sort of passing the torch a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so what age are you talking about there?
Speaker A:Probably, you know, anywhere from 10, 10 to 15 without getting too heavy.
Speaker A:It's nothing too crazy, like, because younger ones.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And just the basis.
Speaker A:Because you can start them off that young, just not just to get used to the movements.
Speaker A:And it's gonna be a couple of kgs and they just wanna know the exercises and how it works.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:By the time they get up to 15, 16, they're ready to sort of start.
Speaker A:Start their journey so jacked.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Most of them are all just, you know, the young guys, man, the girls, they're just hungry.
Speaker A:Yeah, they hungry.
Speaker A:That is keen to learn.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And they're so quick to learn now.
Speaker A:Like, it doesn't take them long to put things up because of all the gaming and stuff.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, even.
Speaker A:Even my kids, they just pick up things so quickly.
Speaker A:Come train you, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even.
Speaker B:It's the age of information.
Speaker B:There's so much information out there that's just available on.
Speaker B:On a phone or on an iPad that you.
Speaker B:Anything you want to know, you can.
Speaker B:You can learn within five minutes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:And that's why.
Speaker B:That's why I started this podcast because I was like, everyone, like all.
Speaker B:All our kids and all our, you know, all the young ones know a million times more than I do.
Speaker B:Like, and I've lived.
Speaker B:I've lived a life, don't get me wrong.
Speaker B:I could write a book with the stuff I've done, but what I've actually learned and what.
Speaker B:What I actually know off the top of my head is.
Speaker B:It'S not great compared to the knowledge that the kids are getting these days.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker A:Nah, I feel you there, man.
Speaker A:They're just getting all crammed in and say a little space.
Speaker A:It's nuts.
Speaker A:Yeah, but no, that's.
Speaker A:That's where it still started, bro.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Training people around the garage and then, man, I was getting pumped, bro.
Speaker A:I was just doing too many sessions a week and I couldn't keep up.
Speaker A:So I had to back off a bit just saying stay in tune with.
Speaker B:My family and that.
Speaker B:Because I guess it is hard for personal trainers too because your level needs to be up all the time.
Speaker B:You'll get someone to come in, your level needs to be up to motivate them and then they'll leave.
Speaker B:But then someone else will come and you need to keep your level up when.
Speaker B:When someone new keeps coming in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I find that man.
Speaker A:And I, I finally have to be able to scale back and scale forward like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Go from a, from an athlete back to like just a mom, the two kids or you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Some of these first time lifter you have to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Before it's like a lot of people just tend to just try and load so much on their mum with two kids.
Speaker A:She's got enough stress already.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Literally just not easy for her, you know and with the family and stuff so.
Speaker A:And then you've got like an athlete.
Speaker A:Athlete.
Speaker A:So I dealt with a few athletes that just want to be down to the brand of protein they're eating and stuff like that and pinch test them every week and I'll do that but then I do like I really enjoy people just starting out.
Speaker A:I really enjoy that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah because they, they need the help.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:Not saying the effort doesn't but they've already got a mindset.
Speaker A:You know it's like playing right.
Speaker A:The league and stuff.
Speaker A:They already can get out and go into the gym.
Speaker A:But some of the people that I like enjoying the most is people that don't are too scared to go or just too scared to start over.
Speaker A:There's that little bit of motivation.
Speaker A:So I enjoy that.
Speaker B:Have you, have you found it's more, it's getting more psychological training.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like just making them stay motivated.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or more so focused.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To realize on the goals and that they're trying to achieve or if it's a long term.
Speaker A:But there's going to be a lifestyle change.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because like I'm on and off man.
Speaker A:It's not like I've been on like when I'm.
Speaker A:If I'm on then something's got to give.
Speaker A:I won't see my kids and stuff so.
Speaker A:But when you like professional athletes and stuff and then just to learn how to back off it so.
Speaker A:But with people I'm trying to make them understand that, you know, you don't have to go if you can't afford to go all in.
Speaker A:You can't, you can't, you don't have to because you just get overwhelmed, eh?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then that's how you fall off or you just stress yourself out too much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Has someone come to you with.
Speaker B:A massive hope and a wish from, to get something from your training and you've just had to pull them back a bit?
Speaker B:Like, have they gone, I want to do this.
Speaker B:But you've looked at them and gone, we've got a lot of work to do and you need to start here because I know a lot of people want.
Speaker B:Because we're living in 20, 25 people on that instant sort of hit the instant results so that they can see.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I've had a few actually, bro.
Speaker A:I had one not so long ago.
Speaker A:She was with me for like, probably like three or four months and she was like using a lot of different other stuff to help her, you know, like I said stuff like that to try and help lose weight, bro.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker A:And then do always conscious about weight going down, going up.
Speaker A:And I was like, had to get it.
Speaker A:But she wouldn't measure her food and stuff and measure her training.
Speaker A:So it was just hard to try and you know, say, oh, I was trying to say that, you know, you can't really go off your body weight, but if you're not measuring your food or your training, sometimes you have to just sort of be in their head a little bit.
Speaker A:But not, not always, like, nah, you're not going to get it.
Speaker A:You know, you have to sort of go in, you have to go in on a channel that's.
Speaker A:They can process it.
Speaker A:Some people can process it easy and then some people take time.
Speaker A:So it's a psychological thing, bro.
Speaker A:Like, you know, it's like you're doing like, you, like, you like counseling, bro.
Speaker A:So, yeah, and yeah, whereas I'm not a counselor, bro, I'm not qualified at all.
Speaker A:But, you know, you have to deal with a lot of people and it's probably inside your hand here too, and try and try and make it sound, get into them and say, oh, yeah, eventually we'll back them off.
Speaker A:I know what they're trying to say.
Speaker A:I can see where they're going is probably we just need to, you know, we'll get there, but it'll just be a bit of a.
Speaker A:Bit of a curve, eh, Trying to get around a bit longer.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, you have to pull people up sometimes not pull them up, but in a nice way.
Speaker A:In a way you still want to keep them motivated, keep moving and keep training and then stay in focus and Then you realize, you know, they'll come around after that.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I guess it's the art of making them think it's their idea, I guess and it's the sort of key is if it's not their idea or their.
Speaker B:Or if they don't think it's their sort of.
Speaker B:Yeah, their idea, then it's a bit harder for people to acknowledge that that's something that they should be doing.
Speaker B:Because people don't like to be told what to do, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Or as in like their goals, bro.
Speaker A:Like they don't want to be told like other than what their goal is.
Speaker A:We're going to work towards that but there's going to be small goals that we're going to work towards first before we get that one.
Speaker A:So she got it.
Speaker A:She got her goal, bro.
Speaker A:Actually I just remembered that because I don't focus on that goal.
Speaker A:I don't focus on that journey.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's the journey.
Speaker A:So I'll focus on like I'll just get it, try and get it in here.
Speaker A:Training three times a week and just trying to just keep it basic eating, eating enough protein and then because everyone needs carbs.
Speaker A:So it's going to be.
Speaker A:As long as you focus on eating the protein first, she'll be filled up on that and then she won't jam in because with the symptom she'll be, she'll be, you know, want to be as hungry.
Speaker A:So if she just tools up on protein she won't get any carbs and that are just listening.
Speaker A:Chance of putting body fat on.
Speaker A:Yeah, you take all the surroundings.
Speaker A:What's going on in your life?
Speaker A:You know, she's working a nine cleaning job.
Speaker A:She's doing long hours and she's stressing out as.
Speaker A:And you know, females and then with her, with her female stuff going on too.
Speaker A:So you have to be all those things you take into consideration mostly in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Go from there and then she got there and then she lost.
Speaker A:She lost.
Speaker A:I think she lost nearly 20 kgs, bro.
Speaker A:So 20, 25.
Speaker A:And then I was.
Speaker A:Yeah and then.
Speaker A:But she actually strength went up over the course of the time and.
Speaker A:Yeah so she built some good muscles.
Speaker A:So yeah, you know she's on her way now.
Speaker A:She's comfortable going to the church gym number.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So that's, that's, that's what I usually do, man.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I'll tell you a story about losing weight when I joined the academy.
Speaker B:Well when I was trying to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker B:I was 135kgs when I did their fitness test.
Speaker B:I passed it.
Speaker B:And then after all that, they told me, you need to get down to 95kgs.
Speaker B:And I said to him, I've been 90.
Speaker B:I've been under 100 since I was 15.
Speaker B:And I just ran every day, every morning and every night for three months.
Speaker B:And I got down to 98kgs.
Speaker B:In three months.
Speaker B:Oh, bro, I was.
Speaker B:That last week I had to cut weight because I needed to be under 100, so I had to cut weight.
Speaker B:And I was reading Mike Dolce and how he did it, and I followed his plan to a T. And I think that last seven days I cut about.
Speaker B:What was I?
Speaker B:About 108.
Speaker B:And so it was about 10 kgs in the last seven days.
Speaker B:And I went to the doctor and I was like, you need to weigh me now because I don't feel well.
Speaker B:And the doctor was like, what have you done?
Speaker B:And I was just like, bro, just weigh me and, like, write it down somewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was like.
Speaker B:He was like, yeah, I was just.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I need to be under 100kgs for at least five minutes.
Speaker B:You just need to weigh me.
Speaker B:And then I had.
Speaker B:I had a stupidly.
Speaker B:I didn't eat properly afterwards.
Speaker B:I went and got like a snack pack and I was vomiting.
Speaker B:I was not in a good way after that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I. I hadn't had.
Speaker B:Had eaten anything for like five days.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And just feeling like.
Speaker B:But that's what they put you through to get there.
Speaker B:Even though.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro, you're the man.
Speaker A:You're amazing, bro.
Speaker B:And then after that, I. I had, like.
Speaker B:I had like, body weight issues after that.
Speaker B:It was always like.
Speaker B:Like the female we're just talking about.
Speaker B:I was always worried about my weight after that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Even though there was no need for it.
Speaker B:Just because I thought they had put in my head that I needed to look this way, even though I don't feel good looking that way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, it's a tough one, Rocky, but no, congrats.
Speaker B:You know us.
Speaker B:You know us.
Speaker B:We're.
Speaker A:Oh, big bang.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Look at a potato, bro.
Speaker A:Just look at that thing, man.
Speaker A:Look at that thing.
Speaker A:Grass.
Speaker A:Don't even try.
Speaker A:And it's funny, bro.
Speaker A:It's like you get all, like, you get like the skinny guys, the Asians and that, bro.
Speaker A:They come to you.
Speaker A:Oh, man, I'll get big like you.
Speaker A:And I was like, no, bro, I'm gonna be like, you, man.
Speaker A:You're a lean machine, bro.
Speaker A:You're A lean machine.
Speaker A:You just.
Speaker A:You're the ultimate, man.
Speaker A:Don't do.
Speaker A:Don't worry about that, man.
Speaker A:Lean machine.
Speaker A:Because the metabolism on them just fire, man.
Speaker A:That's another thing, too.
Speaker A:I had to learn about different ethnicities.
Speaker A:The way you're brought up, they'd always go history straight away.
Speaker A:So they'd have to go through someone to find out what the history is.
Speaker A:So I knew straight away if they eat a lot of whatever their carbs was when they're younger, I'd use it or, you know, try and change it around for them because.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, man, credit to you, bro.
Speaker A:It's not easy getting on the force, brother.
Speaker A:Man, I had so many people, and I had so many people fail, bro.
Speaker A:You know, I had a few clients come in and they were, like, trying to get in the force, and they couldn't even pass the.
Speaker A:Because you could do a lot of booklet stuff.
Speaker A:Abrah.
Speaker A:A lot of mental stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The psych test.
Speaker A:Is the psych test pro.
Speaker A:Is it crazy?
Speaker B:There's a weird one.
Speaker B:They brought me back for my psych test.
Speaker B:And she goes, oh, you answered a few questions that I just need to ask you again to see what your answer will be now.
Speaker B:And one of them was like.
Speaker B:One of them was like.
Speaker B:The question was, have you ever thought of punching someone?
Speaker B:And you said, yes.
Speaker B:And I was like, yeah.
Speaker B:And she was like, explain it.
Speaker B:And I was like.
Speaker B:I was like, because I have punched someone, so I must have thought about it before that.
Speaker B:It was like stupid questions like that.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:That was a history thing.
Speaker A:It wasn't a one and tie in the moment.
Speaker B:You'Re talking about.
Speaker A:Past.
Speaker B:One was like, oh, you said that you like to flirt.
Speaker B:This was when I was single.
Speaker B:Oh, it says you like to flirt.
Speaker B:And I was like, well, yeah.
Speaker B:She's like, have you flirted with me today?
Speaker B:And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker B:Has it worked?
Speaker B:And she was like, no.
Speaker B:And then I was like, well, then I haven't, have I really?
Speaker A:They actually.
Speaker A:Trick questions.
Speaker A:Stupid trick questions.
Speaker B:Because I'll ask you the same question three times but in a different way to see if you answer it differently.
Speaker B:Even though it's the same question.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's mad.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker A:No, I don't.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:You missed that.
Speaker A:I remember went and I used to go to the police college because I did security back there, and we used to go up to the police college bar and do a couple of scenarios with the cops up there.
Speaker A:Man, that was Pretty.
Speaker A:Pretty full on, right?
Speaker A:That was cool.
Speaker A:But that was fun.
Speaker A:Brass getting puns up against the wall.
Speaker A:They rip your belt up.
Speaker B:You know, you.
Speaker A:You know, you fellas do that.
Speaker A:And then I had one dude in there, bro.
Speaker A:I know we're going off topic, but, yeah, it felt for the dude.
Speaker A:He just.
Speaker A:He couldn't do it.
Speaker A:You know, obviously, there's two people.
Speaker A:Two people in the story, man.
Speaker A:And he broke down on that day.
Speaker A:He couldn't.
Speaker A:He can do it.
Speaker A:So it's all sorts of.
Speaker A:So what you.
Speaker A:Yeah, one dude, he just ripped into me, and then another dude couldn't do it.
Speaker A:This is some.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:You obviously see it, man.
Speaker A:You would have seen it.
Speaker A:It's for four people and not for some people.
Speaker B:Oh, bro.
Speaker B:Hard.
Speaker B:And then after a while.
Speaker B:The people it was for, it becomes it's not for them anymore.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it all comes down to what you've witnessed and what you've seen.
Speaker B:And, like, I get a lot of people saying, oh, you know, telling me that, oh, it's just not for some people.
Speaker B:And these are like coppers that have been cops in, like, the country and haven't seen anything for, like, 30 years telling me that it's not.
Speaker B:It's not for everyone.
Speaker B:Like, bro, come on, I worked in, like, the busiest station in all of Victoria, and if I told you something, some of the shit I've seen and, you know, witnessed and.
Speaker B:Yeah, you'd probably be in the corner, like, rocking backwards and forwards.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's right, man.
Speaker A:If you're stationed out of nowhere and you don't see much, though, and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can't really.
Speaker B:It's the dream.
Speaker A:You can't.
Speaker A:You can't really.
Speaker A:You can't really put a blanket over all.
Speaker A:You spend the same sort of idea of what you see, bro.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:It's like anything, really.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's like anything, bro.
Speaker A:That sort of what you perceive your job as.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone's got a different outtake from it.
Speaker B:And again, it's like social media.
Speaker B:Everyone can have a say.
Speaker B:Everyone thinks they've got the right to have an opinion.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Christmas coming up.
Speaker B:I guess one of the things I have wanted to ask you since we decided to do this had and I know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:How do you keep focused or do you keep focused with your training and your eating over the sort of period where it's harder for people to stay focused and be motivated to go to the gym because it's Christmas time and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It'S a tough one.
Speaker A:Bro, Like.
Speaker A:Like I say, bro, the last few months, the last like 12 months, I'll be just focusing on my job really to try and bring the income and pay the bills and stuff.
Speaker A:So Chang's been on like the second or third foot back, but.
Speaker A:And in hindsight it's like, it's always the goal to try and, you know, get fit and healthy enough to actually keep training, bro.
Speaker A:But over, over, over Christmas time where it's just obviously enjoy time with family, bro.
Speaker A:Like, that's all.
Speaker A:My main, main goal is to try and spend time with our kids and stuff and get out and about and moms is always doing stuff with her kids, bro.
Speaker A:She's awesome, bro.
Speaker A:So you always.
Speaker A:We got a close kn.
Speaker A:Our family's quite close, man.
Speaker A:So that's good.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Nah, it's good, bro.
Speaker A:And we just keep.
Speaker A:Because we've got like stepdaughters as well.
Speaker A:So like, I got a big fan and those girls, man, they just hold us together.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But try and spend as much time as you can.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Well, just being mindful, like, I just.
Speaker A:Now I've got to get back in the gym now and you just try at what level you can.
Speaker A:Right, bro?
Speaker A:So, yeah, not everyone's got to do something, even if it's just a walk, man.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:Or just get out on the garden.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not.
Speaker A:I like to do the lawns or stuff like that and just clean the cars and get out and do something where you're going to get, you know, some sort of movement and then sweat on.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, sweet ombre.
Speaker A:And then just get out there and.
Speaker A:But yeah, over Christmas I just tell all my clothes.
Speaker A:It's just enjoy the time with your family.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because it's the only time you have off really the whole year everyone's all busy, so.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And so you spend that time with your family and then, you know, to enjoy.
Speaker A:Enjoy some.
Speaker A:Some food and stuff and just enjoy the time.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, obviously the focus is get through up until through Christmas and then.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm not trying to get back into some sort of routine.
Speaker A:Be trying this week, man, actually try and get back into a routine.
Speaker A:It's been good because the clients have dropped down a bit.
Speaker A:So I've called back my clients so I can.
Speaker A:Because you.
Speaker A:When you're training people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Focus on yourself a bit more because remote.
Speaker A:The more people I train, the less I'm going to be able to focus on myself, so.
Speaker A:Which isn't, you know, it's not really not really good.
Speaker A:So, yeah, sort of back that off and work night shift as well.
Speaker A:Very soon I get home like 6 or 7 in the morning and then I'll train a few people, try and have a slot kids go to school and then get them after school and then train a few after school and then get ready for work.
Speaker B:It's pretty full on.
Speaker A:That's why I haven't set this computer up.
Speaker A:I haven't even Scott dust on it.
Speaker A:It's been sitting in that garage and like I used to play music through it, but then, oh, hello, technology.
Speaker A:You got a Bluetooth speaker and a Bluetooth phone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I just run everything off the phone.
Speaker A:But yeah, over Christmas.
Speaker A:Just relax, just enjoy.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:And then just the chair.
Speaker B:Just one last thing before we cut this off.
Speaker B:I'm just heading back to our roots.
Speaker B:Obviously.
Speaker B:We met each other through hip hop.
Speaker B:You're a DJ and you still are and still doing that thing.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B: s, early: Speaker A:Oh, man, three.
Speaker A:It'll be all back in the 90s.
Speaker A:Brian told us to listen to Public Enemy, man.
Speaker A:Apocalypse91, I think what's called.
Speaker A:I got picked up through my cousin and he used to, you know, family and stuff.
Speaker A:And he was listening to Public Enemy, so I could definitely listen to that.
Speaker A:And I don't know if obviously, you know, Tupac would have been one of the ones there since back in the day.
Speaker A:I remember when I get around came out, bro, on tape and up all that.
Speaker A:I want a lot of cassette.
Speaker A:Speck of mums actually Hope still there, but definitely be a public int.
Speaker A:Grow.
Speaker A:Obviously a tux eling.
Speaker A:Who else?
Speaker A:Mainly those guys, bro.
Speaker A:I'll probably list to.
Speaker A:There's so many, bro.
Speaker A:Like, hey, man.
Speaker A:And then you.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker B:There's like songs that pop up on my timeline now I'm like, oh, bro, that was the jam back, like.
Speaker B:And I've forgotten about it for like the last 30 years.
Speaker B:And I'm like, bro, that was the jam.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:You had a good collection, bro.
Speaker A:You knew all the songs, man.
Speaker A:I was being a rapper, man.
Speaker A:Like you had so much as in.
Speaker A:As in a dj.
Speaker A:You just go for songs that are like popular, you know, because, like, that's the ones you get to play all the time.
Speaker A:And then you didn't really get to get to hear your own little group going on because you're trying to please the crowd, eh?
Speaker A:So, yeah, and then, you know, I played A lot of rock and I used to be in a band and.
Speaker A:And then played a lot of rock bars, a lot of Celtic bars and techno house.
Speaker A:And you get all mixed up right.
Speaker A:Where it's like every, you know, like your commercial thing and that.
Speaker A:But back in the 90s, it would have been definitely something hip hop, R and B. Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I grew up on Public Enemy, man.
Speaker A:Chat Deep flavor flavor.
Speaker A:Put the clock under.
Speaker A:Flavor, flavor, flavor flavoring with the.
Speaker A:With the clock one.
Speaker A:And then we always wanted to be like, like him, so.
Speaker A:But definitely be at pack puck one and.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I know you got a lot of gems.
Speaker B:I think Public Enemies spoke to like, our.
Speaker B:Our people as well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because they.
Speaker B:They were.
Speaker B:They were fighting for something that I think especially back then, we were fighting for too.
Speaker B:Like, because I think it was our generation that sort of brought back learning TDL and reclaiming what, like, who we were.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think, like Public Enemy, that we're always, always fighting for that, for their people as well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Different sides of the world, right, bro?
Speaker A:And then, man, when I moved to Wellia and then I met D Word and about Posse and.
Speaker A:And then got hanging around with all those cats and then, you know, everything back on them at Eye and then sort of all brought everything together, like, okay, not, but public, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I just listened to it because my cousin did, and then I started listening to the words.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, yeah, this is pretty good.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then you start looking at it a bit further and then like, oh, yeah, wow, this is what goes on on that side of the world.
Speaker A:And then you see it on our side of the world too.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So, yeah, you sort of put two and two together now.
Speaker A:Good times, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, good times.
Speaker B:Anything else you want to.
Speaker B:You want to say or promote or.
Speaker B:I know you're not looking for clients because you.
Speaker B:You're trying to free up some time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, they sort of come and go, bro.
Speaker A:So I just take it as a.
Speaker A:As a thing and.
Speaker A:But no, bro, I just really appreciate your time, man.
Speaker A:And it's good to finally see you, bro.
Speaker A:And man, big up to you for what you've done.
Speaker A:Hey, you've come over here and it's not easy and set up and Mace is here too, and you've got a grandchild now, so, man, it's so good to see you, bro.
Speaker A:And catch up and we go way back, man.
Speaker A:And way back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've been listening to the other.
Speaker A:The other podcasts as well, so that you've done.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I really enjoyed.
Speaker A:It's all a couple of new.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's all.
Speaker B:It's all a learning thing, you know, like making mistakes and.
Speaker B:And just learning how to do it properly.
Speaker B:Get in there.
Speaker B:Get in there.
Speaker B:Got a.
Speaker B:Got an original theme song now for it, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, Sounds dope.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker B:It's hard.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's what I've spent the last week doing and just learning how to do all, you know, being comfortable talking to people because the feedback I've been getting is, you know, you need to be more yourself because it was more like a lot of interview type things was happening, the first few ones, but.
Speaker B:Just slowly getting comfortable talking people, talking to people through this.
Speaker B:This sort of medium.
Speaker B:And yeah, I'm getting comfortable getting.
Speaker B:And I'm getting there.
Speaker B:And that's why.
Speaker B:Trying to have a lot of the boys on, you know, it's just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker B:To.
Speaker B:To obviously already know all yours and I. I love you all.
Speaker B:And it's all about learning, like, learning from you guys too, because Josh and Stefan and you know, Josh is a pt.
Speaker B:And you know, bastard Stefan does pilates and stuff, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've seen that too, man.
Speaker A:I enjoyed that one.
Speaker A:The pl.
Speaker B:I'm trying.
Speaker B:Like, the.
Speaker B:The funny thing about that was we spoke for another hour after that and it was like, bro, it was top notch stuff.
Speaker B:We spoke about everything.
Speaker B:And then when I listened back to it, something on his end, because he was in Thailand, something on his end didn't connect and it was just me talking to myself.
Speaker B:That's why it's only 30 minutes.
Speaker A:Oh, crack up, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was gutted, bro, because that second half we were just on.
Speaker B:Yeah, was really good, bro.
Speaker B:It was really good.
Speaker B:And yeah, we're trying to get him back on, but he's traveling the world at the moment, so.
Speaker B:I've seen that.
Speaker A:I was listening to that, dude.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's a cool cat, bro.
Speaker A:He's a nice.
Speaker B:He's cool.
Speaker B:He's always been cool.
Speaker A:I've seen him dumped everything and he's sort of traveling around.
Speaker A:Good on him, bro.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Bro, if I told my wife that would.
Speaker B:She would do that in the heartbeat.
Speaker B:If I said, hey, let's discuss travel, she'd be like, yeah, let's go.
Speaker B:She wants to be a gypsy.
Speaker B:That's what we talked about, me and Stefan talked about.
Speaker B:If she wants to get a caravan and just travel and just work what we can.
Speaker B:Like, it sounds good.
Speaker B:And she.
Speaker B:Yeah, she keeps trying because I know she.
Speaker B:Yeah, she keeps trying.
Speaker B:She'll She'll.
Speaker B:She'll get me around you when you're over.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:It's pretty close.
Speaker A:It's easier when she.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She wants to do something, bro.
Speaker A:It's easier.
Speaker A:It's easier for you.
Speaker A:You just.
Speaker A:You just.
Speaker A:I've noticed that especially with the female, so children, and they'll have.
Speaker A:If they're really passionate with something, bro, they'll just have everything down to a T, man.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:You know, they plan everything, bro.
Speaker A:They, like, 50 steps ahead of us always.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker B:My wife organized our wedding, obviously, and, bro, she did such an amazing job.
Speaker B:Like, she got everything for, like.
Speaker B:Everything was top notch, but she got it for, like, cheap as.
Speaker B:Like, she knew or she knew people and it was just.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:It was so.
Speaker B:Oh, like, you talk to some people and they're like, yeah, paid 50 grand for my wedding.
Speaker B:And I'm like, what are you on about?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's just ridiculous.
Speaker A:Can get up there.
Speaker B:Do you remember half of it?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've done a few weddings, man, and some of them have been up there.
Speaker A:And I was like, wow.
Speaker A:If you can save some, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Enjoy it.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:It looked good too, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, bro.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Stan Walker was one of our wedding songs.
Speaker B:And funny story, maybe a few days before our wedding, we saw him at Woolworths.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Just walking around.
Speaker B:And that was like.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's the sign.
Speaker B:That's the sign.
Speaker A:That's the sign, bro.
Speaker B:He's just walking around like no one knew him.
Speaker B:Was it here and then.
Speaker A:Sorry, was that here in Melbourne?
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:In Auckland.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And yeah, after we got married, Covid hit.
Speaker B:So we'll.
Speaker B:We're glad that we had the wedding back home.
Speaker B:Because I don't know if we would have got back.
Speaker B:After that.
Speaker B:And it just so happened that both of us lost a parent maybe the year before the wedding.
Speaker B:So dad didn't get to see it and her mom didn't get to see it.
Speaker B:But yeah, it was a good day.
Speaker A:It was a good day.
Speaker B:I don't know how we got on this subject, but.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Being a gypsy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But yeah, Stefan.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was a good episode.
Speaker B:If I could play the whole thing for you, you would have really loved the second half of it because it was really good talk.
Speaker A:But no, you've come a long way, bro.
Speaker A:I remember back home and thanks, brother.
Speaker A:Back.
Speaker A:Starting off and then real shy and everything.
Speaker A:And now as soon as you become a cop, man, like, I know that's part of your past.
Speaker A:Now that's.
Speaker A:That's a big stand up from where you've come from.
Speaker A:And then now you're doing this too.
Speaker A:So it takes a lot, a lot of guts, bro.
Speaker A:So, yeah, kudos to you, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, thanks.
Speaker A:Not just thanks, brother, Gaslighting, but it's doing good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Verse, but it's about comfortable way and each time you get better at it.
Speaker B:Correct, correct.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, after the first few, you're like, oh, this didn't really work out.
Speaker B:And so I had, I had a couple that didn't get released and you're like, oh, it didn't really work out.
Speaker B:But I was like, you know, what if I don't try, I'll never know and I'm not doing, you know, why not?
Speaker B:I guess was the point.
Speaker B:So, yeah, just learning.
Speaker B:That's the whole point of this podcast anyway.
Speaker B:So just learning.
Speaker B:And if.
Speaker B:If people follow me along the way and see the progress I make and are happy with it, then and on the way they.
Speaker B:They learn, they learn along with me.
Speaker B:Fantastic.
Speaker B:Which is why I like having people on that everyone can learn from.
Speaker A:Oh, bro, fully understand.
Speaker A:Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, the other guys are on being on your podcast, being good listen, bro, so you can end yourself, you can learn.
Speaker A:Learn a lot from.
Speaker A:Learning a lot from you and then, man, I learned a lot from listen to you and watching your journey, bro.
Speaker A:So, yeah, thanks, brother.
Speaker A:So more to come, mate.
Speaker A:Keep building those memories, man.
Speaker B:More to come.
Speaker B:Yeah, more to come.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Thanks for.
Speaker B:Thanks for the catching up, brother.
Speaker B:And to the listeners, thank you.
Speaker B:Look up, look after yourself and look after your people.
Speaker A:Yes.
